Harvey is an activator of the innate and unique brilliance of others through thoughtful empowerment and relentless encouragement. He is a gifted and experienced team leader, husband of 15 years, father to two girls and one boy, a former Division 1 baseball player, former Chief of Logistics for the United States Army Corps of Engineers and seasoned real estate investor. Today, he helps business owners get what they want from their businesses.
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Highlights of the Podcast
01:46 - A transformational impact on your day
02:51 - A good insight to not only like your own mindset
04:28 - A balanced and manageable way
05:32 - The way you do business
07:12 - Execution and living that ideal life
10:01 - The busses running on time
11:05 - A number of different functions
16:36 - About my failures and my mistakes
19:33 - The chances of you hitting those goals
23:44 - The small pieces in your ideal day
31:04 - Surrounding yourself with people who are going to hold you accountable
Paul Graham [00:00:07] Hello everyone, and welcome back to the Investors Guide to Joy podcast. My name is Paul Graham, and today I'm going to give an intro of Harvey, who I had on. He's a member of abundance with me. And we talk a little bit about iOS system, how to have accountability in your life or altcoins and really live your ideal life. Now, this is an important thing that I really found is that oftentimes, for me, it's really been permission to live my ideal life over these past couple of years and decades. You know, before it was then to say no, I had to be at a certain cashflow amount or net worth amount or have a certain job. There certainly are some things that you know do need to be incorporated if you are having an ideal life of, you know, waking up and walking on the beach and you live in the mountains, well, certainly can't walk on the beach. However, it's then say, if that's your vision and your desire, what are the opportunities and things that you need to do or that you can go towards that then allow you to then walk on the beach every morning? So I've actually seen that sometimes where individuals will simply give themselves permission to say, you know what, I'm just going to go live, you know, at this place with the beach and find a job, make a community, change my life. Right. The other would potentially be, hey, I'm going to get a remote job and do the same. And then the other would be my ideal life would be, you know, doing that as much as possible. Walking on the beach, say, every morning. And I do that by, say, having, you know, ten trips a year to different beaches across the country. And so it's simply to say that there are ways to mentally think about how to live your ideal day today. And even though you may desire for it to be the beach every day, what do you really need? That need could simply be a walk every day, and the perspective that you recognize that just simply walk each day has a transformational impact on your day. So throughout this episode, we've gone through a lot of great things, specifically in business as well, and what you want to get out of your business, which is a beneficial thing for anyone who's an entrepreneur, as well as someone who is inspiring one as well. All right. Hey everyone, and welcome to the Investors Guide to Joy. Ivor Harvey, you're again here. We met a number of years ago at a Cool Balance event in Austin, Spain. Was nice enough to buy me a drink at the bar, and that is. I remember how our friendship started. So, you know, I admired Harvey for how he shows up and the things he goes after and really just his presence as well as just mindset to. So compliments to start you off. But Harvey, glad you're here. Thanks for being here.
Harvey Yergin [00:02:27] Yeah. Thank you. I appreciate the kind words. Thanks for having me. Yeah.
Paul Graham [00:02:30] You bet. So, you know, it's been exciting to see, you know, your journey, venturing into, you know, a number of things. I mean, today you run, you know, an iOS management business, essentially, you know, what have you found in terms of, like, the mindset of other like, entrepreneurs and business leaders as you are, you know, talk to people? Because I would say that you have a good insight to not only like your own mindset, right? As well as like other people's as well. So want to see what might come to mind.
Harvey Yergin [00:02:58] Yeah, I'm I'm a full time iOS implementer. If you don't know what iOS is, go look it up. Go look up the book traction. But essentially I get to help business owners lead their idealize. I get to help them get what they want from their business. There's a lot of business business owners out there, and I've been one of them. And maybe you're one of them who have a business that aren't getting exactly what they wanted from their business when they when they set out on this path. And I said to me, because these visions that live inside of business owners and entrepreneurs has their big, beautiful, wonderful visions that can, can have a massive impact on their community or the world. Sure. And and so to the extent that that vision is locked up inside their head and not actually coming to fruition, that's, you know, that's that. So I help them get I help them get to a point where they're getting what they want from their business and a mindset. So the mindset that I run into, I work with a lot of fellow Go Bundles guys. Yeah. And and actually women. Sure. And the mindset is they're they're they're growth oriented. They're growth minded. They want to improve themselves. They want to improve the lives of the people that work with them. And for them. Yeah, they want to they want to improve the lives of their customers. The better that they are a business, the more impact they have for their customers and the more customers that they can impact. All the while, they're they want to do that in a in a balanced and manageable way, where they're not sacrificing relationship with their spouse, with their kids, with their mom, dad, brothers, family, etc.. Yeah, that's why that's why they're there. That oftentimes that's their intention. Yeah. Are you.
Paul Graham [00:04:44] Do you find yourself doing almost like life set or almost like mindset coaching or giving like perspective as you're doing some of these like implementations or you kind of just, you know, more the like systems process vs.
Harvey Yergin [00:04:56] The the iOS implementation process is a process where you install a set of simple tools and. Timeless and timeless concepts practices. It's not all systems and processes, but it it. It is a framework on which to run your business better. Now, through that process, it is hard to implement these tools without fundamental mindset. Mindset shifts because in implementing us in your business is a fundamental shift in the way you do business. It is. It's a shakeup. It's a big time shakeup. And it forces people to to be vulnerable, to lay all their crap out on the table and be allow their teammates to call them out on stuff and hold them accountable. And when these tools are implemented, transparency and clarity in the business just goes up. All the issues, problems, obstacles, things that you've been burying and hiding, problems that were in the back of your mind that you were hoping would just go away and never do. Everything comes. Every. Everything comes to the forefront. Everything gets smoked out too. A lot of times you're left there feeling kind of naked. Yeah. And then, as you might assume, because you and I have probably been in situations like that. Yeah, that's that is a place where you have a decision to make about whether you want to run and hide and go back to safety or, or keep going and do the work necessary to figure it out.
Paul Graham [00:06:28] Yeah. Naked and afraid. One one thing is, I was mentioning to you that, like, you know, kind of came up today is and be curious on your, you know, perspective is the difference between like a CIO implementing kind of iOS and then also like second in command, like what kind of thoughts come to mind between those differences? Or is the same, like what is your findings or feelings been. Because oftentimes I would think especially like in some of our circles. Right. So most people are visionaries, right? There's very few integrators like myself. And I'll probably have people come, you know, knock on my door and ask to work with. But, you know, they they have those ideas kind of trapped in their minds. Right? Like you mentioned, kind of, you know, visionary, the need someone to, you know, help execute. And so as they think about, like, execution and living that ideal life, that sounds amazing, you know, in concept, but really getting that down to paper and being precise with what they're actually looking for. What are those three kind of buckets? Are they similar or are they different? What have you found. What do you think?
Harvey Yergin [00:07:27] That's that's right. So, if you've read Rocket Fuel, which is another book in the US library, which I highly recommend, there's stats in there that are very alarming about the number of integrators that are actually out there. And then the, the subset of integrators that would actually be a match for you. Mr.. Or Mrs. Visionary is even smaller. So yeah, you should put your number out there and get the. Yes. So the reality is just step one, realizing that if you're an entrepreneur and you are a visionary, you you really need this, this complimentary skill set, we'll just call it that for now of leading and managing and holding people accountable, of being in the details and in the weeds, of orchestrating and harmonizing the entire business, of having tough conversations. A lot of visionaries, when they're trapped in the the second in command or integrator seat, they suck at it. And this is what this is what causes a lot of the problems that they have. They've been trying to get right people right teach the right players, all the right people on the bus. And they they're not very good at it. And so they hire a bunch of people. They're not the right people, but then they don't want to have the tough conversations to get rid of those people and still fill those seats with the right people. It's a disaster. So they need that complementary skill set. That's the complementary skill set is it doesn't matter what you call it in us, we call it the integrator, okay. Because it that language, this describes what they're doing. They're integrating the other major functions in the business. And they all work and play together harmoniously towards a common vision and plan tour. And the other functions of the business, of course, are are sell the marketing operations and finance and admin at baseline. That's what every business has. So you need somebody who is who is orchestrating that and harmonizing them. Because those three functions, if they're if they are right for the business, they're going to disagree. They're going to compete for resources, they're going to compete with ideas. And they should. They got to have somebody who is helping, coaching, guiding make keeping this the the the busses running on time. And that's what the integrator does. So you can call it second in command. And if you look back in history in any business who's ever done anything of note, Apple, Disney, etc., etc., etc., there's always a second in command, a complementary skill set in the background that probably doesn't get as much of the recognition, but they're there and they're the ones keeping the the busses running on time. So second in command or into. Or CLO. It doesn't really matter. That's that complementary skill set to the visionary that's vital in moving the business forward and achieving a vision.
Paul Graham [00:10:15] Sure. Have you heard of a book titled Make the Noise Go Away?
Harvey Yergin [00:10:19] I have it.
Paul Graham [00:10:20] Okay. I read it recently and it's just a I will not to bash the book, but it turned into like a story, right? And I was just like nonfiction, like, just give me this stuff, like, you know, let's go. And so I read about this kind of trip they took to Colorado and, and all these things and the visionary and integrator and like, oh, yeah, we learned how to operate better to do this and this because, you know, we did this and we had this system and process and what have you. Right. But it basically just gives insight on how, you know, the individual who is that type of visionary is able to, you know, delegate or have the conversations with the integrators that they can delegate and elevate things. Right. To really keep the visionary, but essentially in envisioning, right, and doing kind of the CEO navigating sort of pieces instead of, you know, checking the, you know, whole in a number of different functions that would need to be on a ship, just as an analogy. Quick read by 100 pages. But yeah, I was just curious if, you know, come across in your kind of work.
Harvey Yergin [00:11:14] No, I haven't. It's interesting enough.
Paul Graham [00:11:16] So, you know, you talk to the chat or mentioned. Right. So with with Joy. Right. Put this in our form here. So like laughing and acting like idiots, including semi scary adventures with my family brings you joy. Joy. Semi semi scary. You know what? Talk to me more about. Not necessarily what those things you know are right, but just what have you found as beneficial things, right? So as I pick this apart, it's, you know, having humor, you know, not taking yourself too seriously. Right. Trying new things and, you know, kind of bumping up on, you know, kind of the side of fear, if you will, but not, you know, overwhelming, detrimental fear. Fear. How have you found those things to bring you joy?
Harvey Yergin [00:11:59] It's it's twofold. It's in the moment. It's fun just naturally. And then who does it like to sit around with people you love and say things like, remember when we did that stupid thing? Remember when you were doing that? And I was doing this and we almost died? You remember when we we went out hiking and you got stuck on that ladder, and we all had to climb back up there and help you? That's freaking funny. That's being able to sit around with people that you love and rehash hilarious, fun, emotionally charged memories that make you laugh. Now that's to me, that's well, how.
Paul Graham [00:12:35] Do you have more of those moments you.
Harvey Yergin [00:12:37] Have to plan on? You have to plan. I mean, you use use tools like, I mean, even in iOS tools or or or the one sheet is part of Kubernetes or. Yeah, some way of setting goals and intentions, figuring out what you want, first of all. So asking good questions to figure out where you want in life, which sounds like an easy question, but oftentimes is is the hardest question. Yeah. And then and then going going and getting it. And the way to go and get what you want is to write down what you want to do, and then hold yourself accountable to doing and break it and break it into smaller chunks. Are you going to do it?
Paul Graham [00:13:12] How have you found that you've changed those things you might have written down? So for example, you're like, hey, I'm going to, you know, be on a, you know, softball team or something, right? And, you know, go after it. But then later you find out that, hey, this isn't like my sport or what I want to do. You get injured or something like that, right? Like that sort of emotional process and sometimes detrimental, right? Depending on the thing and how much it's important to you and things like that. So for the things you write down and those things changing, you know, how have you found to give yourself grace, be at peace with those things and just let you know life evolve because you've had, you know, a number of like career sort of involvements with yourself. Right. So you may not have predicted iOS, you know, years ago. Right? Or maybe you didn't, you won the lotto. But you know, it's actually more about what that process has been like.
Harvey Yergin [00:13:58] Yeah, not easy, but very, very necessary and something I'm proud of. I don't know how else you figure out exactly what you want to do for the rest of your life, or what you want to do when you grow up. Unless you try some things and are willing to bail on something that isn't the right fit, that doesn't feel right, isn't isn't what you thought it would be. That that took me a while. I've always been. I've always been. Okay, I guess above average. Okay. Being willing to go try something completely different and making like, a wild change. Yeah, that's just kind of the way I'm wired. But it did take me a long time to come to grips with, accept, be okay with failures, starting and starting a business and it not working out the way that you thought it was going to work out. Being in a partnership that it didn't work out the way he thought it was, that was going to work out, losing money, essentially amassing what most people around you would observe to be a catastrophic failure. That's hard. I mean, socially, that's hard. That's hard financially. It's hard emotionally. Yeah. And then. And then at some point, through help and through through work on yourself and not ignoring it, you arrive at a place, or at least I did arrive at a place where it's like, yeah, it wasn't great. It didn't turn out the way I wanted to, but I'm super proud of myself for making the decision to give it a rip. I learned a crap ton. So look at all this stuff I learned. Here are pages of things that I would do different next time in the business with a partnership, etc. and I am. I'm richer for it, I'm smarter for it, and I am now in my new line of work. And I'm better. If not for those experiences, I wouldn't be able to serve the people that I serve now in the way that I'm able to serve. And it was only it was only through working with Aaron Belsky as my coach for for six months, that one of the first things we explored was realizing that my failures were a part of me, and instead of trying to hide them and bury them, to wear them on my sleeve because it humanizes me. Our failures are what connects us with other people. And and they are a vital they are vital pieces of the fabric and story of what made me where I am and who I am now. Yeah.
Paul Graham [00:16:19] That's key. So you mentioned the word proud several times. Have you always been proud of yourself?
Harvey Yergin [00:16:24] No, no. Not always. There was it was a there was a time not that long ago where I was doing the other side of that, as I just mentioned, with just burying my and feeling ashamed about my failures and my mistakes. Okay, so I am more fundamentally proud of myself now than I when I ever have. Sure.
Paul Graham [00:16:46] Okay. Yeah. That's, you know, good to hear. And you talked a little bit about, you know, ideal life and just putting things on paper, going for it, things like that. What is your ideal life look like today, dude?
Harvey Yergin [00:16:55] I think I live in it. I think I'm living it, I have goals, and I have things that I want to do still, but I think I always, I always will have something that that I want to do that I haven't done yet. But I mean, jeez, I have a wife of 16 years that I mean, we're more in love now than we ever have been. I have three beautiful, healthy, hilarious, adventurous, talented kids I get to help, you know, spend every day with my friends, talking to people like you, talking about us, talking about life and with clients and teams and, and and be a part of a journey for them that goes from oftentimes just absolute shit show to something that is beautiful, where they can live their their ideal lives. I mean, what else is there? No, it's it's great.
Paul Graham [00:17:39] And it almost seems like by, you know, helping people transform, right. You can like, feel, you know, that that sort of experience and be grateful for where you're at, what you have and like what you're doing and also, you know, help them along the way as well. That's kind of what I took away from from what you said.
Harvey Yergin [00:17:56] Yeah. It's very fulfilling. Yeah.
Paul Graham [00:17:58] What what's the secret? I mean, you're fulfilled, you know, incredible, beautiful wife and kids. And just like if you have it, if you will all like what? What is what is the one thing writes this book called one thing, right? Like, what do you feel that was the one thing that by doing it or maybe having it, you could say like all these things have sort of blossomed, right?
Harvey Yergin [00:18:17] Oh, man, I wish I was that smart. I wish I could boil it all down to one thing, and I don't, I don't know. I don't I don't have that one thing. The I think it's a thing. It's a, it's a collection of things. One is in your journey, on our journeys to figure out what we want in life, you've got to understand what your values are. And oftentimes we'll set goals because we're supposed to set goals because that's what high achieving people do who accomplish things in life. And I and I then and I write things down are more or less meaningless to me. And if I hit them, that's not particularly satisfying. If I don't hit them, that I want to feel bad about myself. And the reason I didn't hit them is because I never cared about it in the first place. So I would understand your values and and values are not. I'm not talking about I'm caring. I'm authentic. I'm I'm hard working. I mean, what is your criteria? The things that you say yes and no to? If I were to look at your calendar and your bank account, where are you spending your money and your time? Where are you spending your resources? These are criterias for the things that you enjoy, the things that you like, and the things that you say. You have to understand those before you go and set goals. Because once you understand, once you create goals around the things that you that are important to you, that you like and enjoy. Yeah. Guess how? Guess how much higher the chances of you hitting those goals are the answers to them. So I spent a lot of years just creating goals and filling out a one sheet and go abundance with a bunch of stuff that I was putting down because I wanted to impress somebody or, you know, just felt like I was obligated to do it. But spend some time figuring out what is important to you. Make a list of six things. Make a list of 20 things. Boil down to a list of six, and then write them in order. Because sometimes you'll have to choose between like. For me, this is a big one. Meaningful connections is another. Passion is is another one. So. I work as an iOS implementer is about my passion of helping other business owners, but sometimes peace and passion that they can conflict. So then how do you make that decision? And if, if, unless you rank those values, you don't know. Should I spend my money? Am I in my time on this or that?
Paul Graham [00:20:23] Have you found taking like calendar, bank account type of things to then recognize the things that are showing up in your life and then reflecting on those types of words and see how they intertwine, and then have that solid set or what is that kind of like big takeaway because I had those like five core values, right? And immediately once you said that, like I, I lost a little bit of that at that space because, you know, it is true of like I can see these things, but what are they also reflected in, you know, calendar and in finances and I believe they are. But I had that little lapse. So tell me more like tactically like how you take in like kind of the calendar finances with the core values you have. Like what is that kind of process if you will look like or exercise if you will.
Harvey Yergin [00:21:05] Yeah, that's that's exactly what I would do. I think I did do that by the advice of Aaron Belsky is look at me. I could count in my calendar and be honest with ourselves. If you're writing down values that are aspirational nature, which means that you wish you were, I wish I, I wish I emphasized these things, I wish I did more of this, you're just kidding yourself. And you're going to come off authentic to yourself and everybody else around you. Just accept what it is that you like and enjoy and what you value, and roll with that until it doesn't feel like those are actually what you want to value anymore.
Paul Graham [00:21:39] Do you mention that you also write your values themselves?
Harvey Yergin [00:21:42] Yeah, from 1 to 6.
Paul Graham [00:21:44] What does that process like? Like you mentioned in your piece of passion, right? Like is it just you feel, you know, you want more pieces or you want more passion? Was it was it a thinking exercise, a feeling exercise, you know, trying it on what was that process like?
Harvey Yergin [00:21:59] Yeah, it was a lot of journaling. It was a lot of did questions. Okay. From a coach or even from myself. I have pages and pages of pages of things that I thought that I valued. And then I just I just kept iterating. Just get it down, get it down, pare down to words like and things that actually were meaningful to me. And then and then once I got to a smaller list, then starting to rank them on what is actually I'm spending the most time and money on and what things are most important to me. Sure, if peace doesn't exist for me, then it doesn't matter what my passion is and I'm not going to I'm not going to have very meaningful relationships because I'm freaking going crazy. So that's that's my that's my baseline fundamental. And then and then I just build it from there.
Paul Graham [00:22:44] Okay. Yeah. For someone who, you know, doesn't have their kind of ideal day or trying to figure it out or, or things like, you know that from your perspective, you know, what is that it's kind of first step that, you know, you would think that they should.
Harvey Yergin [00:22:58] Take if they're trying to design their ideal day.
Paul Graham [00:23:01] Yeah. There. What I found is that I'm curious is maybe resonates with you as well, is that if I was myself years ago and someone were to say, hey, like, this is my ideal day, I'm so on purpose with so much peace. They're excited. Amazing things in this world that just naturally come to me because of just who I am, how I show up, and I'm just like doing my unique abilities, right? I'd say, well, that's super neat and good for you. Like, you know what? How do I find that? You know, what do I do? Right. So you mentioned journaling. And so, you know, I'm just curious, you know what what that kind of looks like for an individual of years ago, at least for like myself, of what I'm thinking and potentially for you to of, you know, how to uncover pieces your ideal day. Because if you have the small pieces in your ideal day, there's things compound, right? You make those small things that then, you know, bring I believe you know, more joy in your life because if you do things that bring you joy, like you, you have more joy, right? It's a math of so.
Harvey Yergin [00:23:57] Yeah, yeah. So this question reminds me and takes me back to when you asked about the one thing and I now I am thinking that there might be one thing. Okay. And the answer that comes to mind is to get help. Okay. Hire a coach. Don't sit with a therapist. Hire Neil as an implementer. Sure. It's because I didn't think of this stuff on my own. Yeah, I understand, I, I understood that I maybe wasn't satisfied now, and or I understood that I didn't know myself as well as I wanted to or I understood that. And let's take your example. I'm super young. I don't exactly know what I want to do. I don't exactly know what I'm good at. I definitely don't know myself very well yet, and I don't know what the possibilities are. Yeah, and I'm navigating through a thick forest and I'm not. And my eyes aren't fully developed. It makes sense for me to have a mentor or a coach or a therapist or maybe all three. And those are the people like Aaron Monkey, for instance. For me. Yeah. Who presents those great questions that then you can go and reflect through that framework. It's very hard. I. Found to come up with those great questions on your own, and then also spend the time answering them. Oh, and then, by the way, go and and tell that person what you came up with, and then they start asking you more questions about that and helping you refine, refine, refine, refine. I think that's really hard to do on your own. Go get somebody to help you. And I'll add more options. Go get-go. Be a part of a group like a merge, where you get a lot of people who are going to ask you tough questions and help you navigate your life, or something like that.
Paul Graham [00:25:36] Trivia and rally winning and things like that. Yeah. No, I would absolutely agree with all those sentiments. Definitely, you know, different pieces of those things can help in different parts of the journey. It's not about getting it right, but it's definitely about taking action. Right. And then doing some of those things across the board. You know, we all look up to mentors and, you know, have coaches and other resources and things like in our life, but there are just periods of time that I found that it was just like, oh, I'll just do it myself, or I need to do it myself. Or there's just, you know, different blockers or needs when in reality, like the answer is, you know, beyond me to, to learn, to understand, to, receive good questions, to journal, you know, things like that. Right. So kind of watering and giving sunlight to the plant. Right. That is the seed of, you know, getting help, right? And asking for it as well as, you know, going to get it. Absolutely.
Harvey Yergin [00:26:25] No. That's a great, great reflection. Yeah. Yep.
Paul Graham [00:26:29] So one thing that's big, you know, at least for myself in terms of you know Investors Guide to Joy right. Is like just like a hike right? There's a guide with little tips and tricks and vantage points and things like that. Right. So you know, what is one thing that you would put in this guide? Right. Maybe it's a quote, maybe it's a perspective. Maybe it's, you know, experience something like that that you've really found on your path. You know, as you become an accredited investor, that other individuals, whether they're accredited right now or they're on their path to really know.
Harvey Yergin [00:26:59] I think I want to stick with the with the help with that whole idea, realizing that you can't and you should do it all yourself. Yeah, yeah. There's that. It reminds me of the analogy that we use in iOS a lot, which is that I don't know who I'm talking to, I don't know, I don't know if I'm talking to people who are building a business or have a business or business owners, and it kind of doesn't matter, because even if you don't have those things, you're just an individual. Yeah, with a W-2 or something. And, you have somewhere else you want to go. So you're on a journey from point A to point B, and let's say you're just hiking. Well, you know, in my world, in the US, we have this thing called Vision Traction Organizer. It is just a it is just a two-page document that tells you where you're going. So it defines point B for you and anybody else who is along the ride or the hike with you, including your spouse and your family. They need to know where you're going because guess what? They're coming with you. You. So whether it's a vivid vision or something, get that on paper that defines where you're going, and then you've got to know who is responsible for which part of that journey. So if you're if you're on a hike, a long hike and you know where you're going, let's just assume you're you're you're not out there by yourself. Let's say you have a small team of people. You've got to know who's responsible for navigating, who's responsible for setting up camp, who's responsible for food, who's responsible for cooking, whatever. Yeah, and I'm in my world, in the US, this is the accountability chart. And it spells out who is specifically accountable for the various portions of this journey on our way from point A to point B. Sure. And even if you are a solopreneur or one person, create an accountability chart because you'll soon see that there are things that have to get done in your world, in your business, in your life that you are good at and love to do, and stuff that you hate to do and aren't very good at those. And then you focus on those and get somebody else to do them for you. So we know we're now we're doing we're going, you know, who's responsible for what part of that journey we have to keep our current life running the way it's running, optimize. And we have to build the life or business of the future to keep the business and or our life running the way we know it needs to run right now. The tool for that in my world is called a scorecard. You might call it a habit tracker or whatever. It's a list of things that, you know, if I do these things on a weekly basis, I'm running pretty close to optimize in my current life. The reality is, if you're on a if you're on a journey to point B, you have to keep your current self-optimized. So if you have if you're hiking, you know you need to drink this much water to get this many calories. You need to rest this long. Whatever it is, you have to keep the current thing running. You also have to build the thing for the future. You gotta you have to take steps to build your life or business of the future. The tool for that is rock and rocks are just 90-day priorities. Anything that is most important to get done in the next 90 days. And these things should be focused on the business of tomorrow again. It's binary. You're either running the business of today or your life of today and building for tomorrow, or you're doing none of it. There is no other choice. And then the last thing I would say is that we're all terribly, terribly flawed because we're all human. So we need accountability to need accountability. The tool that we have for in, in iOS for businesses is called the L ten level ten meeting agenda. And it's a 90 minute meeting once a week, we'll all get in the same room. And we look at our numbers, we look at our scorecard, we look at a rock and we ask ourselves, is this on track or off track? And then we dive in, dive in, and solve issues. And this is how accountability works because we're left to our own devices. Most times we're going to slack off a little bit and let this number slip. Let that number slow because we're human. This is the way it works. So this is where I would say this is where you need help. This is where other people come into the equation. Even if you are just by you're just a person who doesn't have a business, you need to be surrounding yourself with people who are going to hold you accountable, ask questions you wouldn't ask yourself, and drive accountability in your life or in your business. And if you're doing those five things, the chances of you getting to that point be absolutely with success, very high. Yeah.
Paul Graham [00:31:20] Take that to the bank.
Harvey Yergin [00:31:21] Deposit.
Paul Graham [00:31:22] Guarantee.
Harvey Yergin [00:31:23] I said high, not guaranteed. Hey, I mean.
Paul Graham [00:31:27] You know, there's always an asterix. There's always an asterisk. Cool, I absolutely agree. No, thank you for that perspective. Harvey, thanks for coming on, sharing your insight and your perspective. It's been helpful to me and I'm sure others as well.
Harvey Yergin [00:31:38] Yeah, thanks for having me. Appreciate that.
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